The management of the P2P connections

08-04-2008, 03:34 PM

Good morning,
Following our message of Friday about P2P on our network,
we can say it was read. Certainly understood half, deformed
by discussing parties who are passionate in every sense,
who often have nothing to do with the subject.

Now we are listening here are the details concerning the management
the abuse of P2P.

Our network has no vocation to become the dustbin of the Internet
where one can freely exchange any sort of illegal file. This is
the main message we wish to convey. According to our estimates,
Only 300/400 dedicated servers of 40000 exchange files
in a different way. It is little, but the trend is to take a
dedicated server, cheap (low risk) to exchange
faster because the file servers use 100Mbps or
1Gbps bandwidth! We want to break this trend and reduce
as much as possible the number of servers used for this activity. Hence
Friday's message, which has obviously been read and heard.

The technical details:
The problem arises in the 2-3% of cases where the client puts in place
tools with PUBLIC access to exchange files, or because
it was his "job", either because it is a great beginning. In
both cases, Ovh will always intervene to stop this kind of use
of our infrastructure.

The alerts we receive through our robots audits. With
the public links it takes 5 seconds to determine what the customer
proposes exactly.

[...]

It should still define a 20ène points that were raised.
20 These details will again create a buzz and it will again
repreciser. We will do more simply.

The alerts, we receive will be automatically returned to
clients. After 3 alerts, the server will be suspended with
the possibility of recovering data, but the need to reinstall
the system. Again, after 3 alerts, Ovh will intervene, but
this time to suspend the server and break the contract.
The customer may still retrieve the data.

Thank you for your feedback

Yours
Octave
_______________

Andy · 08-04-2008, 03:34 PM

Good morning,
Following our message of Friday on P2P on our network,
we can say it was read. Certainly understood half, deformed
by discussing parties who are passionate in every sense,
who often have nothing to do with the subject.

Now we are listening here are the details concerning the management
the abuse of P2P.

Our network has no vocation to become the dustbin of Internet
where one can freely exchange any sort of illegal file. It is
the main message we wish to convey. According to our estimates,
Only 300/400 dedicated servers on 40000 make the exchange of file
in different forms. It is little, but the trend is to take a
dedicated server, cheap (which said cheap, low risk) to exchange
faster because the file servers use or 100Mbps
1Gbps bandwidth! You want to break this trend and reduce
as much as possible the number of servers that make this activity. Hence
Friday's message, which has obviously been read and heard.

The technical details:
The problem arises in the 2-3% of cases where the client puts in place
tools with PUBLIC access to exchange files, or because
it was his "job", either because it is a great beginning. In
2 cases, Ovh will always intervene to stop this kind of use
our infrastructure.

The alerts we receive through our robots audits. With
the public links it takes 5 seconds to determine what the customer
proposes exactly.

[...]

It should still define a 20ène points that were raised.
20 These details will again create a buzz and it will again
repreciser. We will do more simple.

The alerts, we receive will be automatically returned to
clients. After 3 alerts, the server will be suspended with
the possibility of recovering data, but the need to resettle
the system. Again, after 3 alerts, Ovh will intervene, but
is to suspend the server and break the contract. The customer may
still retrieve the data.

Thank you for your feedback

Yours
Octave

kasher9 · 08-04-2008, 06:12 PM

Now that is better,3 alerts.

w00t · 08-04-2008, 06:31 PM

****in bull****!

funny how when i asked to get my databack u said no. end of story

does this meen i get my server back online u terminated so i can recover some data?

Yianni · 08-04-2008, 07:24 PM

This is fantastic news! You have done the right thing.

For a server to receive 3 warnings they must be doing illegal transfers 24/7 which is fine and they deserve to be terminated eventually.

Now we don't have to worry as much for our clients attempting to do illegal things on our servers. Of course we will still keep an eye on them daily but the fear of losing the server and content has gone.

Thanks OVH keep up the good work.

JALZOO · 08-04-2008, 10:34 PM

How do you recieve the warning.. is it VIA e-mail?.

helpseeker · 08-04-2008, 10:41 PM

if I understood correctly:

3 warnings

first 2 you can fix it on your own dumping bad users.
at third: suspension, data still accessible but you need to re-image it.

then another 3 warnings, after the 6th: server suspended forever, data still recoverable.

that's a reasonable way to handle this things

w00t, I saw what happed to you in the other post, I hope you can get your data back and things sorted out... that was very sad... especially after seeing that they realized that the procedure they wanted to apply was completely insane. :/

Andy · 08-04-2008, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JALZOO

How do you recieve the warning.. is it VIA e-mail?.

I would assume this would be by e-mail since by post would be too slow.

helpseeker · 08-04-2008, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy

I would assume this would be by e-mail since by post would be too slow.

lol

yeah I hope via email, exactly the same way they do receive them

just a question:
3warnings for each server or just 3warnings per account?
will be nice to see what will happens to direct download (rapidshare style) sites hosted @ovh

Yianni · 08-05-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpseeker

lol

yeah I hope via email, exactly the same way they do receive them

just a question:
3warnings for each server or just 3warnings per account?
will be nice to see what will happens to direct download (rapidshare style) sites hosted @ovh

As bad as this is going to sound they will probably get away with things since they're big paying customers.

It was on a server to server basis before these changes so I don't think anything will change.

Why should my other servers be affected if only one server has problems with copyright infringements.

Some clarification from OVH would be good though so we know exactly how things work.

Also after the third strike on a server, does it get terminated and you lose it? Or will you be allowed to reformat the server and continue to use it with 3 new strikes?

Cheers

08-04-2008, 03:34 PM	#1
oles@ovh.net Guest Posts: n/a	The management of the P2P connections Good morning, Following our message of Friday about P2P on our network, we can say it was read. Certainly understood half, deformed by discussing parties who are passionate in every sense, who often have nothing to do with the subject. Now we are listening here are the details concerning the management the abuse of P2P. Our network has no vocation to become the dustbin of the Internet where one can freely exchange any sort of illegal file. This is the main message we wish to convey. According to our estimates, Only 300/400 dedicated servers of 40000 exchange files in a different way. It is little, but the trend is to take a dedicated server, cheap (low risk) to exchange faster because the file servers use 100Mbps or 1Gbps bandwidth! We want to break this trend and reduce as much as possible the number of servers used for this activity. Hence Friday's message, which has obviously been read and heard. The technical details: The problem arises in the 2-3% of cases where the client puts in place tools with PUBLIC access to exchange files, or because it was his "job", either because it is a great beginning. In both cases, Ovh will always intervene to stop this kind of use of our infrastructure. The alerts we receive through our robots audits. With the public links it takes 5 seconds to determine what the customer proposes exactly. [...] It should still define a 20ène points that were raised. 20 These details will again create a buzz and it will again repreciser. We will do more simply. The alerts, we receive will be automatically returned to clients. After 3 alerts, the server will be suspended with the possibility of recovering data, but the need to reinstall the system. Again, after 3 alerts, Ovh will intervene, but this time to suspend the server and break the contract. The customer may still retrieve the data. Thank you for your feedback Yours Octave _______________ Last edited by fozl; 08-07-2008 at 03:24 PM.

08-04-2008, 03:34 PM	#2
Andy HG XXXL + MegaRAID Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 2,772	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions Good morning, Following our message of Friday on P2P on our network, we can say it was read. Certainly understood half, deformed by discussing parties who are passionate in every sense, who often have nothing to do with the subject. Now we are listening here are the details concerning the management the abuse of P2P. Our network has no vocation to become the dustbin of Internet where one can freely exchange any sort of illegal file. It is the main message we wish to convey. According to our estimates, Only 300/400 dedicated servers on 40000 make the exchange of file in different forms. It is little, but the trend is to take a dedicated server, cheap (which said cheap, low risk) to exchange faster because the file servers use or 100Mbps 1Gbps bandwidth! You want to break this trend and reduce as much as possible the number of servers that make this activity. Hence Friday's message, which has obviously been read and heard. The technical details: The problem arises in the 2-3% of cases where the client puts in place tools with PUBLIC access to exchange files, or because it was his "job", either because it is a great beginning. In 2 cases, Ovh will always intervene to stop this kind of use our infrastructure. The alerts we receive through our robots audits. With the public links it takes 5 seconds to determine what the customer proposes exactly. [...] It should still define a 20ène points that were raised. 20 These details will again create a buzz and it will again repreciser. We will do more simple. The alerts, we receive will be automatically returned to clients. After 3 alerts, the server will be suspended with the possibility of recovering data, but the need to resettle the system. Again, after 3 alerts, Ovh will intervene, but is to suspend the server and break the contract. The customer may still retrieve the data. Thank you for your feedback Yours Octave __________________ █ I am NOT an OVH staff member! █ I am NOT a reseller! Please do not ask. █ 2 Servers (Kimsufi Q-1T and Kimsufi 08) █ OVH Customer since Dec 2007 █ Tutorials and guides for Microsoft IIS 7.5 █ Like testing betas? Get Windows 8 Betas plus more at BetaArchive.com █ Known OVH resellers: kopitesteve@hotmail.co.uk via Messenger or E-mail

08-04-2008, 06:12 PM	#3
kasher9 RPS Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 16	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions Now that is better,3 alerts.

08-04-2008, 06:31 PM	#4
w00t SuperPlan BestOF Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 101	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions **in bull*! funny how when i asked to get my databack u said no. end of story does this meen i get my server back online u terminated so i can recover some data? Last edited by w00t; 08-04-2008 at 06:38 PM.*

08-04-2008, 07:24 PM	#5
Yianni SuperPlan Mini Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 56	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions This is fantastic news! You have done the right thing. For a server to receive 3 warnings they must be doing illegal transfers 24/7 which is fine and they deserve to be terminated eventually. Now we don't have to worry as much for our clients attempting to do illegal things on our servers. Of course we will still keep an eye on them daily but the fear of losing the server and content has gone. Thanks OVH keep up the good work.

08-04-2008, 10:34 PM	#6
JALZOO EG BestOF Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 229	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions How do you recieve the warning.. is it VIA e-mail?.

08-04-2008, 10:41 PM	#7
helpseeker SuperPlan Mini Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 56	Re: La gestion de P2P les precisions if I understood correctly: 3 warnings first 2 you can fix it on your own dumping bad users. at third: suspension, data still accessible but you need to re-image it. then another 3 warnings, after the 6th: server suspended forever, data still recoverable. that's a reasonable way to handle this things w00t, I saw what happed to you in the other post, I hope you can get your data back and things sorted out... that was very sad... especially after seeing that they realized that the procedure they wanted to apply was completely insane. :/ Last edited by helpseeker; 08-04-2008 at 10:45 PM.