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elvis1
07-06-2009, 17:48
Quote Originally Posted by Dave
Both of the links come down at a MAX of 110Kb/s on both RPS & Pro, and I pinged the address you gave for the file downloads:



If speed and latency to Argentina is important then a European host probably isn't for you, OVH don't sell to Argentina either AFAIK.
thanks mate! I know they dont offer and I know why . The fact is that a friend of mine has given me a virtual space into his server and would like to have as much data as possible to decide some stuff ( secret :P ).


Code:
tracert www.abyssunderground.co.uk

Traza a la dirección www.abyssunderground.co.uk [91.1x1.1x.x]
sobre un máximo de 30 saltos:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  x.net [192.168.0.1]
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  10.0.0.2
  3    44 ms    23 ms    14 ms  200.x.xx.x
  4    22 ms    23 ms    15 ms  200.x.x.x
  5    23 ms    69 ms    22 ms  ret01rt-pos16-0-0.tasf.telecom.net.ar [200.3.32.
118]
  6    19 ms    28 ms   134 ms  bai3-telecom-argentina-1.bai.seabone.net [195.22
.220.109]
  7   162 ms   184 ms   160 ms  global-crossing-2-mia2.mia.seabone.net [195.22.1
99.234]
  8   187 ms   174 ms   350 ms  67.16.160.105
  9     *      329 ms   344 ms  30g.gblx.ldn-1-6k.routers.ovh.net [213.251.130.5
3]
 10   289 ms   419 ms   323 ms  20g.rbx-1-6k.routers.chtix.eu [91.121.131.13]
 11   368 ms   291 ms   381 ms  rbx-4-m1.routers.ovh.net [213.251.191.7]
 12   299 ms   296 ms   280 ms  roubaix.betaarchive.co.uk [91.x.x.x]
A ping :

Code:
www.abyssunderground.co.uk

Haciendo ping a www.abyssunderground.co.uk [91.xxx] con 32 bytes de datos
:

Respuesta desde 91.x: bytes=32 tiempo=349ms TTL=114
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=272ms TTL=114
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=276ms TTL=114
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=283ms TTL=114

Estadísticas de ping para 91.xx:
    Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
    (0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
    Mínimo = 272ms, Máximo = 349ms, Media = 295ms

Some extra tests from my US server :

Code:
F:\Documents and Settings\hop>tracert www.abyssunderground.co.uk

Traza a la dirección www.abyssunderground.co.uk [91.121.17.201]
sobre un máximo de 30 saltos:

  1   218 ms   222 ms   269 ms  10.8.0.1
  2   220 ms   219 ms   219 ms  67-220-199-62.hosted.static.web.com [67.]
  3   218 ms   246 ms   238 ms  ge6.lax.web.com [67.220.192.1]
  4   215 ms   213 ms   336 ms  67-xxxxx.hosted.static.web.com [67.220.19
2.97]
  5   266 ms   308 ms   230 ms  ge1-14.cr01.lax02.mzima.net [64.235.245.65]
  6   229 ms   234 ms   370 ms  te0-1.cr01.phx01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.34]
  7   486 ms   250 ms   258 ms  te0-0.cr01.dfw01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.38]
  8   280 ms   288 ms   275 ms  te1-0.cr01.ord01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.13]
  9   299 ms   359 ms   305 ms  te4-5.cr01.lga01.us.mzima.net [69.174.120.73]
 10   302 ms   350 ms   318 ms  xe0-0.cr01.lga02.us.mzima.net [216.193.255.214]

 11   421 ms   396 ms   431 ms  eos3-1.cr01.lhr01.uk.mzima.net [216.193.255.178]

 12     *        *        *     Tiempo de espera agotado para esta solicitud.
 13   479 ms   414 ms   379 ms  20g.rbx-1-6k.routers.chtix.eu [91.121.131.13]
 14   429 ms   428 ms   371 ms  rbx-4-m1.routers.ovh.net [213.251.191.7]
 15   370 ms   375 ms   598 ms  roubaix.betaarchive.co.uk [91.121.17.201]

Traza completa.

F:\Documents and Settings\hop>ping www.abyssunderground.co.uk

Haciendo ping a www.abyssunderground.co.uk [91.121.17.201] con 32 bytes de datos
:

Respuesta desde 91 bytes=32 tiempo=364ms TTL=120
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=427ms TTL=120
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=417ms TTL=120
Respuesta desde 91.: bytes=32 tiempo=398ms TTL=120

Estadísticas de ping para 91.1:
    Paquetes: enviados = 4, recibidos = 4, perdidos = 0
    (0% perdidos),
Tiempos aproximados de ida y vuelta en milisegundos:
    Mínimo = 364ms, Máximo = 427ms, Media = 401ms

Dave
07-06-2009, 12:24
Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
did you see any improvements after the rps infrastrcure was rebuilt?

would you try this for me please?
http://fedora.patan.com.ar/linux/dev...mages/boot.iso
http://fedora.patan.com.ar/linux/rel....fc10.i386.rpm

is there any way to tell the latency from your rps to Argentina?

Thanks!
Both of the links come down at a MAX of 110Kb/s on both RPS & Pro, and I pinged the address you gave for the file downloads:

--- patan.com.ar ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 7998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 232.747/233.200/233.454/0.672 ms
If speed and latency to Argentina is important then a European host probably isn't for you, OVH don't sell to Argentina either AFAIK.

elvis1
07-06-2009, 08:46
did you see any improvements after the rps infrastrcure was rebuilt?

would you try this for me please?
http://fedora.patan.com.ar/linux/dev...mages/boot.iso
http://fedora.patan.com.ar/linux/rel....fc10.i386.rpm

is there any way to tell the latency from your rps to argentina?

Thanks!

Dave
06-06-2009, 19:04
Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
I was not allowed to edit my own post :S

Would you please make some tests for me (WGET)

http://sftp.fibertel.com.ar/services/disk-1GB.img

Thanks

PS: I dont know why I dont get mail alerts when I have a thread or post answered
I tried that link on my RPS and got a steady 280kb/s (tried it on my Pro serise dedi and got the same), it would take about 1hr 15mins to download the whole file and I couldn't be bothered

It's not really surprising its so slow though since the server you gave is hosted in Argentina which is the other side of the world.

elvis1
06-06-2009, 18:04
I was not allowed to edit my own post :S

Would you please make some tests for me (WGET)

http://sftp.fibertel.com.ar/services/disk-1GB.img

Thanks

PS: I dont know why I dont get mail alerts when I have a thread or post answered

elvis1
06-06-2009, 17:41
Quote Originally Posted by Dave
I used to have a RPS as my main server and yes some people moan about performance (usually CPU rather than HDD) but I found it to be nothing but execellent, its all about choosing a product to fit your needs rather than budget.

I optimised the server as best I could and it could easily burst @ 80Mbps and substain a constant 40-50Mbps all the time, I only moved to a Pro server when I needed more HDD space (the cost of buying more SAN vs PRO server, the pro server is usually cheaper)

TIPs:
Run as few processes as is securly possible.
Try lighttpd instead of apache for static file etc.
Optimise your code (if its self written) removing un-nessarity DB calls & file reads/writes.



I still have an RPS (too cheap to get rid of really) and I've just ran a quick wget on a 1GB file:

Code:
[root@r2***8 ~]# wget ftp://ftp.luna.nl/test/1024MByte.bin
--15:53:11--  ftp://ftp.luna.nl/test/1024MByte.bin
           => `1024MByte.bin'
Resolving ftp.luna.nl... 217.77.137.78
Connecting to ftp.luna.nl|217.77.137.78|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.    ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /test ... done.
==> SIZE 1024MByte.bin ... 1073741824
==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR 1024MByte.bin ... done.
Length: 1073741824 (1.0G)

100%[=====================================>] 1,073,741,824 5.88M/s   in 3m 2s

15:56:13 (5.64 MB/s) - `1024MByte.bin' saved [1073741824]
That ran an average load of 0.45 and used less than 65mb of ram (NOTE: this server is running other services too)



At 10 GBP/EUR with no contract/minimum term why not try it out
Thanks for all the testing and the hard work. What sets me back is that the RPS as said before does not allow a USB hdd to be attached. I am planning to migrate my VPN ( which was built for me and I dont know how to migrate it :P ), a hanful of mostly static websites from me and a friend , set up an ftp server, torrent and virtual desktop.. I think firstly even though OVH was generous enoigh to double disk space I think I would be getting short, right?

freshwire
24-05-2009, 16:45
I hate people who don't optimise scripts. intelgrabber.com was using over 70 sql queries just to load the simple index page! insane!

Dave
24-05-2009, 14:57
I used to have a RPS as my main server and yes some people moan about performance (usually CPU rather than HDD) but I found it to be nothing but execellent, its all about choosing a product to fit your needs rather than budget.

I optimised the server as best I could and it could easily burst @ 80Mbps and substain a constant 40-50Mbps all the time, I only moved to a Pro server when I needed more HDD space (the cost of buying more SAN vs PRO server, the pro server is usually cheaper)

TIPs:
Run as few processes as is securly possible.
Try lighttpd instead of apache for static file etc.
Optimise your code (if its self written) removing un-nessarity DB calls & file reads/writes.

Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
A guy also said that he placed an ISO file and downloaded with some friends in order to check the servers max speed and that the server crippled.
I still have an RPS (too cheap to get rid of really) and I've just ran a quick wget on a 1GB file:

Code:
[root@r2***8 ~]# wget ftp://ftp.luna.nl/test/1024MByte.bin
--15:53:11--  ftp://ftp.luna.nl/test/1024MByte.bin
           => `1024MByte.bin'
Resolving ftp.luna.nl... 217.77.137.78
Connecting to ftp.luna.nl|217.77.137.78|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.    ==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /test ... done.
==> SIZE 1024MByte.bin ... 1073741824
==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR 1024MByte.bin ... done.
Length: 1073741824 (1.0G)

100%[=====================================>] 1,073,741,824 5.88M/s   in 3m 2s

15:56:13 (5.64 MB/s) - `1024MByte.bin' saved [1073741824]
That ran an average load of 0.45 and used less than 65mb of ram (NOTE: this server is running other services too)

Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
I will definetely not buy this product.
At 10 GBP/EUR with no contract/minimum term why not try it out

freshwire
21-05-2009, 16:41
For large download speed you should transfer directly to RAM.

Remember the RPS are very cheap server. You know already the bottlenecks. If they are not suitable for your requirements you can go for a server with its own hard drive or stick with another supplier of VPS.

For OVH cheap dedicated servers:

http://www.kimsufi.com/
http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/

elvis1
21-05-2009, 15:42
thanks guys! Andy: I think getting good support should be great but it the product I am intending to buy isnt good I am trying to buy aint no good, then its not worth a try.
People say ( Spanish) they cant write at over 2 MB/sec from the iscsi. Ive read that sometimes they can go through the 750kb/s barrier . I have a VPS ( its worth 5 US bucks per month ) that download a file with wget in less than 10 seconds. Of course if you have a 100mbit pipe ( as OVH supossedly says) and your write speed is limited by the iscsi the whole thing is nonesense. Best write speeds ( kind of anecdotical ) I ve seen were of 4 MB/s.

A guy also said that he placed an ISO file and downloaded with some friends in order to check the servers max speed and that the server crippled.

I will definetely not buy this product.

fozl
21-05-2009, 09:19
Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
I understand your point of view! I might be self capping (to 1.5MB/s)the connection in order not to be set to lowest priority. Should it be ok? I am not expecting to have a high availability thing with a rps and also not a high end machine, just what it is to have some fun. I would be adding a 500 gigs USB drive. Can we choose to have windows as an OS? ( native OS, not needing to virtualize with VM or something similar).

Thanks
You can't add usb disks to the rps but you can order an expansion of your partition in the SAN. You can extend up to 1TB.

For now the rps are linux only, if you want a gui you could give Ubuntu a go...

Andy
21-05-2009, 09:13
Spanish support are different people to English support, and I can tell you English support are generally excellent and do sort RPS issues out just as quickly as other issues.

I don't think you can have the disks as they're racked 48 servers to a rack, so I don't see how they would have the space for one thing, plus they don't have it in the list of offers on the site like they do for dedicated servers.

Contact support, they will be able to confirm.

elvis1
21-05-2009, 02:50
I was convinced I could. Ive been reading the Spanish forum and user experiences are very disappointing. Users post their experiences with full details and no OVH representative does a thing. They dont do anything when a ticket is raised or when they post details of failure in the forum. I guess a high end vps should be much better

Andy
20-05-2009, 23:34
I don't believe you can have 500GB USB drives on RPS's...

elvis1
20-05-2009, 18:28
I understand your point of view! I might be self capping (to 1.5MB/s)the connection in order not to be set to lowest priority. Should it be ok? I am not expecting to have a high availability thing with a rps and also not a high end machine, just what it is to have some fun. I would be adding a 500 gigs USB drive. Can we choose to have windows as an OS? ( native OS, not needing to virtualize with VM or something similar).

Thanks

marks
20-05-2009, 11:24
that's 16Mbps, which is fine inside the 100Mbps that an RPS could provide, theoretically.

Though to use it constantly or as an average for the whole months comes up as 5TB per month!

First, consider that the bandwidth regime for RPSs is 100Mbps not guaranteed. So, if the network is fine, you'll be getting that. Just in the case that we're experiencing a high volume of traffic, this bandwidth could be limited. So you'll have to take the possibility into account.

Secondly, 5TB of traffic per month is quite high, so you're putting the RPS under quite a big strain. Mind that RPS is a sort of simple cheap server to have fun but not thought as a server to run 24/7 applications.

I would strongly suggest to go for a better server for that. I wouldn't plan ahead for a server that's going to meet the specifications so tightly as in your case. But it's up to you.

elvis1
20-05-2009, 06:14
does someone know if using constantly 2MB/s 24/7 should be fine for rpsI?
thanks