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elvis1
24-08-2009, 16:38
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Any team you're on?



Powered by an decommissioned nuclear sub Remember they use 110V there - it's the EU equivalent of 2x10A. Then they're talking about 20-24 home-PC-sized boxes (baker's shelf). So that's 1 - 0.8A per "server" - same or even less than what OVH offers.
I dont think they are using the decomissioned submarine.. those are a bunch of mad swedes..IIRC

team.. and my output is small .

the one I posted has a total of 4.4 KW.. right? How many KW does OVH provide for the same?

Myatu
24-08-2009, 12:43
Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
same here (mj12 )
Any team you're on?

Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
look at the electric US colo provide..
Powered by an decommissioned nuclear sub Remember they use 110V there - it's the EU equivalent of 2x10A. Then they're talking about 20-24 home-PC-sized boxes (baker's shelf). So that's 1 - 0.8A per "server" - same or even less than what OVH offers.

elvis1
24-08-2009, 07:47
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Haven't heard of Yacy yet. I've been interested in Majestic 12 actually... http://www.majestic12.co.uk/ I'm staunchly against Java for server software (although Mono isn't that much better either )
same here (mj12 )

on topic :

Code:
Bakers shelf (will fit 20-24 tower cases or 72 mini ITX ATOM boxes) 2x20AMP electric 100Mbps unmetered $659/month

look at the electric US colo provide..

derchris
22-08-2009, 23:45
This is Yacy

http://yacy.net/

gigabit
22-08-2009, 23:35
Majestic 12 ftw!!

Myatu
22-08-2009, 23:01
Haven't heard of Yacy yet. I've been interested in Majestic 12 actually... http://www.majestic12.co.uk/ I'm staunchly against Java for server software (although Mono isn't that much better either )

derchris
22-08-2009, 17:55
I'm participating in something like this.
It is a distributed search engine called Yacy

Myatu
22-08-2009, 17:45
Quote Originally Posted by derchris
You should read between the lines.
They were using 3452 nodes.
I knew that - your average RAM can't even handle that speed, so you would definitely have to spread the stuff around. Still an amazing result!

freshwire
22-08-2009, 13:00
I wonder if this can be beaten with the i7 CPUs on a few thousand Kimsufi's
few about covers it I think.

derchris
22-08-2009, 12:46
You should read between the lines.
They were using 3452 nodes.
Each node had 2 Quadcore Xeons, with 8 GB memory
You most likeley would need the same amount of nodes, or even more to get to the same results.

Myatu
22-08-2009, 07:53
Quote Originally Posted by DedicatedPros
Yeah 5TB ram and 1344 CPUs Best in Poland, only 28 in Europe tho
I was looking at a distributed crawler/search engines. Yahoo is using Hadoop (from Apache) to do this, and then I stumbled upon some benchmark results for Hadoop:

Sort Benchmark:

Code:
100 TB in 173 minutes
3452 nodes x (2 Quadcore Xeons, 8 GB memory, 4 SATA) 
Owen O'Malley and Arun Murthy 
Yahoo Inc.
It's the current record (1TB @ 209 seconds). I wonder if this can be beaten with the i7 CPUs on a few thousand Kimsufi's

elvis1
21-08-2009, 17:58
guys I can't see the power upgradeds costs..

TIA

DedicatedPros
20-08-2009, 19:54
LoL

freshwire
20-08-2009, 19:44
Yeah remembering computer information is a lot easier than remembering people's names. But you will be pleased to know I saw that you were on MSN about 15 minutes ago so I still remember your name (for now)

DedicatedPros
20-08-2009, 19:24
Quote Originally Posted by monkey56657
I will have a server with 5TB ram
Now let's see if you can remember my name without looking at MSN Yeah 5TB ram and 1344 CPUs Best in Poland, only 28 in Europe tho

freshwire
20-08-2009, 18:32
I will have a server with 5TB ram

DedicatedPros
20-08-2009, 18:14
I sleep like a baby after checking up on my servers in person

Ashley
20-08-2009, 12:26
Going to Data centers at 3am is my favourite past time.

Myatu
20-08-2009, 10:10
Quote Originally Posted by Neil
Although many of the support staff at OVH.com can speak English and can provide you support via Telephone and Email there is no guarantee that if you turned up at 3am to the Paris DC that there would be someone that can assist you that speaks English.
Good to hear I wouldn't want to be there at 3am unless I really have to...

Myatu
20-08-2009, 10:08
I like Dell. They've come up with a "XS11-VX8" server using the Via Nano, sitting idle at 15W and 30W at peak load. You can fit 252 of these suckers into a single rack - 7.3KW... Woot!

Neil
20-08-2009, 10:03
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Has that changed, Neil? The "can speak French" part, that is?
Although many of the support staff at OVH.com can speak English and can provide you support via Telephone and Email there is no guarantee that if you turned up at 3am to the Paris DC that there would be someone that can assist you that speaks English.

elvis1
20-08-2009, 07:31
Quote Originally Posted by Andy
That is a fair amount of power you know. Even my home server which is a dual core and 6 hard drives uses just 130watts (0.6A).
dual core server? the reason of going colo is to have top notch hardware taking advantage of a good connection.. dual core for colo? No way..

if someone is planning to colocate: why would he buy something he can rent for a few extra bucks and avoids not only the hardware costs ( bought for higher costs than buying in bulk), but shipping ( with the probabilities of it being smashed as we saw many times) and having to worry about upgrades.. This is why you dont colo low end or mid end hardware..

a single server would overwhelm those shy 230 W...also take into account that servers tend to be multi socket ( even though a server can even be a via nano cpu based computer)

DedicatedPros
19-08-2009, 23:25
Pocket translator ftp

Myatu
19-08-2009, 22:42
Quote Originally Posted by DedicatedPros
No one needs to speak foreign languages nowadays, I pull out a wad of money and people learn/understand pretty fast
Yeah, true. But it kind of defeats the purpose of "saving money" when co-locating

DedicatedPros
19-08-2009, 22:38
No one needs to speak foreign languages nowadays, I pull out a wad of money and people learn/understand pretty fast

Myatu
19-08-2009, 22:35
Quote Originally Posted by Neil
You can always phone OVH.com commercial team to have a discussion about it, at the moment it is not available to UK Customers through the UK Website, but if you are willing to travel to Paris to install your own equipment and can speak French then we might be able to offer services to you.
Has that changed, Neil? The "can speak French" part, that is?

Neil
19-08-2009, 14:25
Hi

With Colo enquires they do need to go through OVH.com, and all the servers are located in our Paris DC and not in Roubaix Valley.

The commercial team will be able to help you with this via email https://www.ovh.com/fr/espaceclients.../supportv3.cgi or you can phone them on +33 (0)9 72 10 11 12

However if you do have an issues with this then you can get back to us.

gigabit
19-08-2009, 14:10
It's hard to use 1A tbh. I have an i7 with 4 drives and nvidia 285 graphic card - full load on everything and it doesnt go above 200W. Its amazing... Take out the graphics cars like for a server and thats down to just over 100W leaving plent of room for more hard drives (they only use about 10W each).

freshwire
19-08-2009, 13:34
Of course the 1A is the usage your are allowed not the physical limit. Perhaps it is measured like 5 minute average at 1A.

Andy
19-08-2009, 12:23
The circuits are designed for surge allowances, otherwise every time you turn anything on the surge would trip the breaker. The circuit would never "blow up", that would be stupid. My server doesn't even surge to double its normal power rating when turned on so I doubt you'd have any trouble either way.

derchris
19-08-2009, 12:10
But not when you turn the system on.
After that ok, but while you power it on it will use more then that.
So you might blow up the power circuit

Andy
19-08-2009, 11:23
Quote Originally Posted by elvis1
1 amp.. that must be some kind of joke.. shoudl I place a server or a VIA C7 in order not to go over the 1 amp..
That is a fair amount of power you know. Even my home server which is a dual core and 6 hard drives uses just 130watts (0.6A).

slayer2005
19-08-2009, 10:43
Quote Originally Posted by DedicatedPros
S'mores
I have a 4 man tent
Just no monkey buisness!

DedicatedPros
19-08-2009, 10:09
S'mores

freshwire
19-08-2009, 10:08
Quote Originally Posted by DedicatedPros
I'll setup a tent outside the DC in Roubaix
I think an ovh camping trip is in order!

DedicatedPros
19-08-2009, 10:01
I'll setup a tent outside the DC in Roubaix

derchris
19-08-2009, 09:57
That would be a problem, max cable lenght 100m

DedicatedPros
19-08-2009, 09:54
I'd just run that ethernet cable back to my house and enjoy a 100Mbit unmetered connection

elvis1
19-08-2009, 06:49
Quote Originally Posted by gigabit
Well you only get 1A (~230W) but the network is unlimited. The reason its "cheap" is because you have to supply your own server (obviously).
1 amp.. that must be some kind of joke.. shoudl I place a server or a VIA C7 in order not to go over the 1 amp..

gigabit
19-08-2009, 04:37
Well you only get 1A (~230W) but the network is unlimited. The reason its "cheap" is because you have to supply your own server (obviously).

elvis1
19-08-2009, 04:21
very tempting.. so we get everything unlimited for 99 euros? we donīt have to pay for anything else?

elvis1
19-08-2009, 04:19
double posted

please delete

derchris
19-08-2009, 04:06
If the servers where geographicaly deployed, then I could understand that.
But everything is hosted in the same, frog leg eating, France.
So the "different offers for differen regions" doesn't appeal to me.
But I believe we can write what we want in here. No one from OVH is paying attention anyway.

gigabit
19-08-2009, 04:01
OVH always give the good deals on the french site though.

derchris
19-08-2009, 03:58
But that is for a ded. server.
I was talking about colocation. Normaly you pay for traffic. Actually thats what the new offers are doing as well
They also offer Transit IP for 100 Euro/month.

gigabit
19-08-2009, 02:53
Why? You can already get 100mbit unlimited (ok low priority transit) on a SP mini for Ģ35/month. OVH have the capacity so for 99 euros a month they can easily give you true 100mbit.

derchris
19-08-2009, 02:44
Yes, it is saying 100mbit unlimited.
That would be the first Hoster I know of who offers 100mbit unlimited traffic for a co-location.

But this is most likely too good to be true

gigabit
19-08-2009, 02:36
Its on ovh.com

derchris
19-08-2009, 02:34
Where is this showing.
Can you post a Link ?

gigabit
19-08-2009, 02:23
looks like it, nothing saying otherwise...

elvis1
19-08-2009, 02:01
if we colocated: would we be able to use the 100 mbps connection in an unmetered way? I am talking about the 99 euro plan for 1-3 U

TIA