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Where is OVH UK base?


dansgalaxy
06-12-2009, 20:17
Lol, ah that sucks.

I have tried to build with clients... and the great thing about some products is 1 client pays for that really cheap server from OVH! lol

freshwire
06-12-2009, 02:32
Quote Originally Posted by dansgalaxy
loosing me 2 customers which paying a decent amount I am running at a loss again
Maybe we should start a 'customer pass along' chain. When one reseller gets some customer loss they can suggest an alternative host

Dear Customer,

We are sorry that you have decided to leave out hosting service.

We try to be as open as possible to our customers so since you have already decided to leave our service may we do the decent thing and recommend an alternative host. hosting service should provide you with the you require. Before setting up our own hosting company we used to use their services and were very satisfied.

Regards,
Edit: That said I have lost 0 customers to date

Edit: That said I only have a total of 2 customers.

Edit: The 2 customers pay 1/12th of the server fees

Edit: All the time spent developing a fully custom hosting panel

Edit: All the time I spent counting the 20,000 lines of code for the above

Edit: All the free server upgrades I have done for my clients

Edit: All the free website development I have done for my clients

Edit: All the time I spent editing this post !







Edit: And I am serious about all that ^

dansgalaxy
05-12-2009, 19:02
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Wehey! Well, borrow a suit from someone, nick the swear-money jar and use it to pay the taxi driver. After all, real business men don't drive but get driven around I've pulled stuff like that. And besides, if people can pull this at the White House Thanksgiving, anything is possible!
Haha true

Damn I need a job lol... of course I might of actually been able to spend some of the profits which been building up in my business paypal as was running at a small profit... but thanks to OVH ***** slapping my RPS for a week and loosing me 2 customers which paying a decent amount I am running at a loss again so maybe not. :@ ...

(I will keep *****in' about this constantly because it really peeved me off! lol)

Myatu
05-12-2009, 18:52
Wehey! Well, borrow a suit from someone, nick the swear-money jar and use it to pay the taxi driver. After all, real business men don't drive but get driven around I've pulled stuff like that. And besides, if people can pull this at the White House Thanksgiving, anything is possible!

dansgalaxy
05-12-2009, 18:32
Hmm interesting

Lol btw, I contacted my other host and almost fell off my chair when got told just give the Sales manager a date and time and he will hopefully clear it with the DC staff! lol

Damn... Now all I need is to 1, Have a car 2, money for patrol 3, To some how not get laughed at when a 17 yr old web host turns up at the DC lol

lukus001
04-12-2009, 00:46
Quote Originally Posted by dansgalaxy
Actually i remember seeing that (i think) the army used to have ferrets for that purpose of threading cables through pipes! lol

I always wonder how they go about getting these massive fibre optic lines between DCs.

I would assume theres some massive company which lays huge lines between uk and Fr etc and OVH just rents/brought a few of the lines or something.

Hmm, wonder if my other supplier which I get my VPS from would get me into BlueSquared in maidenhead lol
Between nearby data centers isn't too bad. There would already be Ducts in place for routing, if not then they'd have to put some in the road -_-. There's usually regular access points too, but you pretty much just shove it down a tube and it'll pop up out the otherside ^_^...

The biggest Fibre cable I've had to work with was a 144 core with most of it's size due to the fact it was armoured - it's not very big considering the ammount of fibres being put down it - nothing like the giant power supply cables that get isntalled to datacenters! So a large ammount of links from point A to B isn't too hard.

companies like Level3 own their own links between countries IIRC and get other companies to install it- to which the sell usage to various people.

There is also a lot of 'dark fibres' installed which companies lease out.

Myatu
04-12-2009, 00:30
Quote Originally Posted by IainK
Now I don't know who owns the cables crossing the waters...if any one could enlighten us that would be most appreciated
There's a whole bunch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...nglish_Channel

dansgalaxy
04-12-2009, 00:24
I really need to learn about the global networks lol

IainK
04-12-2009, 00:09
OVH will not own cabling between Rouabix to London.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is how I would imagine it will work:
OVH send data from Rouabix to LINX (the London Internet Exchange) and some UK ISPs are directly peered with OVH by connection to LINX.
Other UK ISPs are not directly peered with OVH through LINX, but they are peered with one of the UK ISPs that is, so the traffic will be routed 1 ISP -> Another ISP -> OVH all over peering.
ISPs that are cannot be reached over the peering will use global transit.

Now I don't know who owns the cables crossing the waters...if any one could enlighten us that would be most appreciated

dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 22:58
Quote Originally Posted by gigabit
Good question! Do they hire rabbits to tunnel between datacentres?
Actually i remember seeing that (i think) the army used to have ferrets for that purpose of threading cables through pipes! lol

I always wonder how they go about getting these massive fibre optic lines between DCs.

I would assume theres some massive company which lays huge lines between uk and Fr etc and OVH just rents/brought a few of the lines or something.

Hmm, wonder if my other supplier which I get my VPS from would get me into BlueSquared in maidenhead lol

gigabit
03-12-2009, 18:35
Good question! Do they hire rabbits to tunnel between datacentres?

freshwire
03-12-2009, 18:11
How do all the cables actually get to these places... I imagine it would look like a building with wires going off in all directions

lukus001
03-12-2009, 17:53
Quote Originally Posted by dansgalaxy
Hmm interesting.

I'm wondering if i could scrap some money together one day and do a day trip to london with a mate, see if can persuade one of the DC's to let us have a nose round. lol

Doubt they would but worth a try
I've installed fibres in both global switch 1 and 2, both are annoying to get in to. Security is a pain, since to get in you have to use an intercom at the doors and then they spend 30 minutes trying to find your name on their list -_-;;. Of course, employees have nice swipe cards -_-.

There's really not much to see, apart from rows of cabs lol.

While the work I do is for other companies (not GS directly, people who have bought floor space) some of the fibre installed is horrible, makes me want to inspect the fibres in any datacenter I host with -_- especially when i see people "cheating" when testing the fibres...

Don't think GS would be too interested in letting you in directly, but their clients who buy floor space off them can get you in (vistor pass /escorted) - just have to find a host who hosted there.

gigabit
03-12-2009, 17:27
Theres aparently a datacentre within a mile of me, always wanted to get colocated there but I dont think the prices are anything like OVHs

Myatu
03-12-2009, 17:26
You might not even have to go to London. Swindon is home to a Data Centre designer called "Latitude UK". They had a fully operational data centre showroom (not sure if they still do), so give 'em a call

dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 17:01
Hmm interesting.

I'm wondering if i could scrap some money together one day and do a day trip to london with a mate, see if can persuade one of the DC's to let us have a nose round. lol

Doubt they would but worth a try

fozl
03-12-2009, 17:00
Correct, our DC's are all in France, we have points-of-presence in UK data centres as you can see on the weather-maps: http://weathermap.ovh.net/london

Myatu
03-12-2009, 16:48
Quote Originally Posted by monkey56657
But since you are super curious I used some skills I learnt by watching CSI to zoom in on this image for you
OMW, that had me in tears laughing!

Anyway, the OVH office in the UK is at Clements Road in London SE16 (Southwark).

I know OVH has routers at one of the Global Switch DCs (as they recently replaced them). Global Switch has two DCs in London. Telehouse has two DCs right next door to Global Swich. They're located in London E14 (Tower Hamlets, East India Docks).

Telecity 8 & 9 are at the Harbour Exchange Square (Millwall, London).

These are just for OVH's network links to France. The actual servers are in the DCs in Roubaix, which is a town just over the Belgian border before you reach Lille (oftewel Rijsel). They also have two colo centres in the greater Paris area (one of which is the Global Switch DC in Clichy [Paris suburb]).

dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 16:22
Ok then :/ lol

My mistake I still have much to learn with advanced datacentre structures lol

freshwire
03-12-2009, 16:18
Nope same route ...


dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 16:08
Haha.

Really? I was thinking that failovers worked by basically having a server in country x which has for example 188.0.xxx.xxx hosted on it and has routing rules to route it to the french servers fixed IPs.

Obviously I was mistaken, I just always thought RIPE required the server to be in the same country as the IP is registered :/

freshwire
03-12-2009, 16:04
The failover IPs can be any country but still physically route to a server in france. The UK failover IPs route to servers in france.

But since you are super curious I used some skills I learnt by watching CSI to zoom in on this image for you


dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 15:55
I know that, but I believe they would have some, all be it just a few servers in the UK too, my understanding is they would need them for the failover IPs?

So I would assume they have at least 1 rack in the UK just for the UK IP's and stuff?

Dan

freshwire
03-12-2009, 15:51
The servers are in france. Mostly in roubaix.

dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 15:50
Quote Originally Posted by RikT
check your emails dude there address is on them
I know that I am currently looking at the building on Google Maps street view

Link for anyone interested: http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&sourc...161.19,,1,-3.2

Just wondering if anyone (in particular aimed at the people who actually work there) knew if this was just support office or if they also host their UK servers there, or if they just rent a few racks in BlueSquared or something.

I am just being nosy into the company

RikT
03-12-2009, 15:43
Quote Originally Posted by dansgalaxy
Just random question...

Where exactly is OVH's UK operations based?

Where's their DC, or what DC do they use (if they don't have their own all to their self in the UK) and where's the UK office?

Dan
check your emails dude there address is on them

dansgalaxy
03-12-2009, 15:37
Just random question...

Where exactly is OVH's UK operations based?

Where's their DC, or what DC do they use (if they don't have their own all to their self in the UK) and where's the UK office?

Dan