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Cloud Computing coming in X days


Iray
23-05-2010, 20:44
Im seeing double VM's after refreshing the page using the browsers refresh button.

EDIT:

Okay, No problems. Fixed after refresh + F5

Iray
23-05-2010, 13:28
Wow. Interface kinda rocks. Nice.

Neil
21-05-2010, 18:17
Quote Originally Posted by Iray
Variable X is not within scope ..it is private not public.

X =
X marks the spot, don't forget you keep an keep using your Clouds via https://labs.ovh.com/ManagerCloud we are updating it everyday.

Iray
21-05-2010, 18:05
Variable X is not within scope ..it is private not public.

X =

Razakel
21-05-2010, 17:34
Quote Originally Posted by tallen
Free T-Shirt? Wow! Yes please OVH.

Well, I've tested a few, set them up with NXclient and they're really fast. Surprisingly they've got a really fast connection also, in excess of 100mbit. Much better than a C-05G when it comes down to performance, but hard drive space could be larger..

I just don't want OVH to start charging on everything, Bandwidth, Ram, CPU!! It's so much simpler when you just need to pay X per month. Then you know, to put that much away each month to pay for your hosting.
Simple is always better
To be honest, there should be the option, with, for example, a hard limit you can set in the manager for how much you want to spend. Otherwise you'll end up with people getting £10,000 bills after being DDoSed and the cloud scaling up to meet the demand.

tallen
21-05-2010, 15:35
Quote Originally Posted by freshwire
I LOVE variables costs with my server near always at load 0.00

Can anyone comment on the performance of these? I didn't get on the beta testing train for lack of paying attention to the forum (OVH had to resort to promising free tshirts to get me back here! )
Free T-Shirt? Wow! Yes please OVH.

Well, I've tested a few, set them up with NXclient and they're really fast. Surprisingly they've got a really fast connection also, in excess of 100mbit. Much better than a C-05G when it comes down to performance, but hard drive space could be larger..

I just don't want OVH to start charging on everything, Bandwidth, Ram, CPU!! It's so much simpler when you just need to pay X per month. Then you know, to put that much away each month to pay for your hosting.
Simple is always better

freshwire
21-05-2010, 14:32
People HATE variable costs.
I LOVE variables costs with my server near always at load 0.00

Can anyone comment on the performance of these? I didn't get on the beta testing train for lack of paying attention to the forum (OVH had to resort to promising free tshirts to get me back here! )

Myatu
21-05-2010, 02:49
Quote Originally Posted by NickW
It's now the maximum "X" days can be from the date he posted. Cloud soon?
Soon™






"Soon" and "Champagne?" are a trademarks of Octave Klaba.

NickW
21-05-2010, 02:03
It's now the maximum "X" days can be from the date he posted. Cloud soon?

inet
20-05-2010, 20:15
i agree with wanting fixed monthly prices!!!!!

elvis1
20-05-2010, 07:00
fixed monthly price and eta please

tallen
19-05-2010, 19:49
Well I hope they have fixed monthly prices, trying to enforce pricing on CPU cycles, Ram, bandwidth etc, is far too complicated and will just put people off. People HATE variable costs. I mean OVH is turning into Ryanair, soon we'll have to pay to view the forums. Please, just charge for the monthly duration.

Also, look how popular the C-05G was before they introduced setup fees! It's time there was a server for the individual again, which you can buy for a short duration for a little project. OVH had a massive gain over it's competitors when it didn't have a setup fee and people used to flock here.

I mean when your first getting into servers, you don't want to fork out a huge amount of money just to try and realise that your shared hosting was just as good. Please OVH, don't kill the littleman. No setup fees for the cloud servers!

After all, it's all done automated anyway. Your missing out on so much business! Please listen to the customer!

Iray
18-05-2010, 23:21
Have been looking forward to this. But not going to even bother looking at it again if I discover there is a setupfee.

.... But hopefully..... Im hoping theres not.

512MB RAM, 10GB Disk Space, 0.5TB Bandwidth, Cost: £3 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
1GB RAM, 20GB Disk Space, 1TB Bandwidth, Cost: £5 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
2GB RAM, 50GB Disk Space, 2TB Bandwidth, Cost: £10 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
4GB RAM, 100GB Disk Space, 4TB Bandwidth, Cost: £30 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
I think thats fair. Perhaps a little more b/w on the last one.

2GB RAM, 50GB Disk Space, 3TB Bandwidth, Cost: £10 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
3GB RAM, 100GB Disk Space, 5TB Bandwidth, Cost: £20 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
Quite a jump from 10 to 30

Myatu
18-05-2010, 21:37
Quote Originally Posted by Marks
does anyone want to comment on this post?
I can't understand a word of that post. But given from what Oles has said on the mailing list, I'm not all that impressed by the charges (or the plethora of "infrastructure" options)... Not competitive at all.

Razakel
18-05-2010, 14:55
Quote Originally Posted by MicroChip123
I also want different plans with no setup fee.
To prevent spam you could block port 25 and charge £25 one off fee to have it unblocked or have them confirm address by letter.
This.

A setup fee would quite probably kill this. Block port 25 or force it to go through an OVH email gateway.

Quote Originally Posted by MicroChip123
I would also want the option of being able to upgrade and downgrade to other plans.

you could also have an option where they can build there own cloud plan but its still a fixed monthly fee.
I think on-demand upgrade/downgrades are part of the idea behind the cloud.

Quote Originally Posted by MicroChip123
The cloud manager is very bad i dont like it one bit. Why cant they have one like dedicated servers? my main problem is i dont like the fact i have to use ssh keys and nothing works.
I'm not keen on the SSH keys, but the manager works fine for me.

Quote Originally Posted by MicroChip123
If you go with the pay for how much Disk space, Disk I/O, ram used ect. model i will not use it as i have no way of knowing how much its going to cost me each month. What happens if my site gets DDoS do i get a £10,000 bill?
This too. There needs to be a fixed cap that can be lifted if needed, and automated notifications.

Also, will Windows-based cloud servers be available?

MicroChip123
18-05-2010, 14:43
That post oles made is very confusing.

Here is what i want from the cloud:

Something where i pay a fixed monthly fee (like a server) and i get a fixed amount of disk space, ram and bandwidth.

I also want different plans with no setup fee.
To prevent spam you could block port 25 and charge £25 one off fee to have it unblocked or have them confirm address by letter.

I would also want the option of being able to upgrade and downgrade to other plans.

E.G.
512MB RAM, 10GB Disk Space, 0.5TB Bandwidth, Cost: £3 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
1GB RAM, 20GB Disk Space, 1TB Bandwidth, Cost: £5 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
2GB RAM, 50GB Disk Space, 2TB Bandwidth, Cost: £10 Per Month (Inc. Vat)
4GB RAM, 100GB Disk Space, 4TB Bandwidth, Cost: £30 Per Month (Inc. Vat)

you could also have an option where they can build there own cloud plan but its still a fixed monthly fee.

The cloud manager is very bad i dont like it one bit. Why cant they have one like dedicated servers? my main problem is i dont like the fact i have to use ssh keys and nothing works.

If you go with the pay for how much Disk space, Disk I/O, ram used ect. model i will not use it as i have no way of knowing how much its going to cost me each month. What happens if my site gets DDoS do i get a £10,000 bill?

I worked out how much amazon S3 would cost me to run an Image CDN for my site and it was £100+ a month. I just used a C-05G Kimsufi which was £22. When the cloud beta came out i just moved it on to the cloud its perfect for me, it uses very little ram, cpu and diskspace. just massive amount of bandwidth.


marks
18-05-2010, 13:49
does anyone want to comment on this post?

After trying for several weeks the VPSes offered, what do you think about the infrastrucutre?

About the proposed configurations:
- Vary the number of Cloud in a cluster, like from 5 Cloud , 7 Cloud then 3 then 10 then 2 in the night. Perfect for WEB type infrastructure that can easily parallelized.
- Vary the power of each Cloud, and then go from 1 core to 4 cores then 2 then 3 then 1 in the night. Perfect for infrastructure for databases (SQL).
- Use the Cloud with 48 cores (or more ... why not unlimited) then count the resources actually used by the Cloud perfect for stress tests, etc. events.
which one would you make more sense for you?

also, for a Could Kimsufi: what would you think it would be a good pricing? If you can give us examples of other providers, even better

Thanks in advance

oles@ovh.net
12-05-2010, 11:02
Hello

Work on the Cloud Computing progressing well and we soon launch it. The infrastructure on gamma works well too. We have over 6000 Clouds operating
now what is probably the largest infrastructure Cloud in France (already). And with a limitation 5 Clouds per client. It is a promising start ... And it proves
there is a real demand on the Cloud aka "the intelligent infrastructure."

What remains to be finished before we start the offer? Billing ... yes yes ... it is marginal but crucial ... The adminsys end the current system that will also have the graphs of real-time operation ... the CPU in real time, the RAM usage in real time, the I / O records, disk space and bandwidth. This information is coming to our infrastructure and thus show what you consume Cloud is actually like hardware resources. Not what your Linux or Windows told to consume. So even if your Linux says it consumes 200MB RAM then it does nothing, in reality, as it does nothing, it does not consume RAM on our infrastructure and so that you do is nothing. We think that next week it will be finished. From there we'll definitely fix the billing and Cloud models business, so that it remains ... understandable salable but also maintained over time. Ie we have the ability to continue investment in the Cloud, permanently to provide the quality service you expect.

In parallel, the dev teams advancing on Cloud Manager (which will be the future manager v5) to make proposals and services options that we believe add. Examples management "clusters" or "infrastructure" through the Cloud: 1 click and it creates 5 'Sub' Clouds which are redundant and pre-configured to accommodate 1 project, 1 click and duplicate the Cloud WEB to double capacity, 1 click and add intelligence into the infrastructure to manage the processing capacity based on load infrastructure. And the intelligence Cloud decides to reduce or increase the number of Cloud in the cluster based on the settings ...

I want to.

These are just a few tracks that we will code in the Cloud Computing of OVH. The goal is to provide intelligent infrastructure that adapt the resources available in this objective needs cost reduction but also to reduce maintenance time and propose infrastructure is complex. Less than 1000 customers OVH has one today (clusters with load balancing Auto). Thanks to Cloud hopefully offer solutions intelligent decisions that will take your place and do what
dirty work and complex daily (with the help of our admin / dev). Basically, instead of a dedicated server, you'll certainly start a cluster Cloud. For the same price in value you get added redundancy, high availability and the possibility of increasing the cluster resources in a few seconds to almost infinite.

To vary the power infrastructure, here are some strategies we chose for our offers:
- Vary the number of Cloud in a cluster, like from 5 Cloud , 7 Cloud then 3 then 10 then 2 in the night. Perfect for WEB type infrastructure that can easily parallelized.
- Vary the power of each Cloud, and then go from 1 core to 4 cores then 2 then 3 then 1 in the night. Perfect for infrastructure for databases (SQL).
- Use the Cloud with 48 cores (or more ... why not unlimited) then count the resources actually used by the Cloud perfect for stress tests, etc. events.

We also believe offer a "low quality" to be cheap but bring no guarantee that you can expect from the Cloud at OVH. This offer will be offered here under the name "Cloud Kimsufi"

In summary, our Cloud will therefore offer these three strategies, brands + 2 PCC offers a ie the Private Cloud Computing that will create and manage its own cloud. We already proposed this offer there and we working on simplifying the handling. The PCC is there to have access to an infrastructure OVH hardware as used for the Cloud but without hardware concerns. You manage everything with a Web interface and you can determine how you start on each Cloud hardware switch a Cloud from hardware to another, adding a hardware in your cloud ... and then to resell Cloud, why not
OVH compete or offer what we do not offer. It also a solution for companies that want to outsource their infrastructure Internal and manage all the but with a VPN access (level 2 or / and 3).

I think that our approach is now complete and takes into account all types of needs they may have in Cloud. If you
forgotten in the process ... you know my email: oles@ovh.net

X varies between 2-3 weeks (approximately).

Regards
Octave