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zydron
19-10-2010, 15:03
next thing is expanding the american network and after that, or parallel, expanding to asia.

question, when can we expect USA ip address space?

markrandall
19-10-2010, 14:49
I see that from the Hurricane Electric network to a OVH server uses the OVH POP in nyc:

Code:
 1  10gigabitethernet2-1.core1.fmt1.he.net (64.71.129.69)  8.919 ms  9.553 ms  9.929 ms
 2  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.pao1.he.net (66.160.158.242)  0.771 ms  0.865 ms  0.958 ms
 3  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.lax1.he.net (72.52.92.22)  17.747 ms  17.808 ms  17.949 ms
 4  10gigabitethernet4-3.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.225)  75.013 ms  75.145 ms  75.199 ms
 5  paix.ny.routers.ovh.net (198.32.118.106)  100.740 ms  78.029 ms *
 6  ldn-1-6k.uk.eu (213.251.128.30)  157.397 ms * *
 7  rbx-1-6k.fr.eu (91.121.131.13)  160.530 ms  160.370 ms *
 8  rbx-42-m1.fr.eu (213.251.191.122)  160.407 ms  160.354 ms  160.565 ms

Neil
15-10-2010, 17:48
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Not quite. Americans only pay it if they live in the the same state where the company is established. So, if OVH were to open an office in Pennsylvania, PA state citizens pay the 6% sales tax (or 7% in Philly); someone from elsewhere in the US doesn't. Some states don't have a sales tax...
Yep, which is perfect for Amazon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon....n_of_sales_tax

Myatu
15-10-2010, 17:46
Quote Originally Posted by zydron
whatever you call it, its the same imho!
Not quite. Americans only pay it if they live in the the same state where the company is established. So, if OVH were to open an office in Pennsylvania, PA state citizens pay the 6% sales tax (or 7% in Philly); someone from elsewhere in the US doesn't. Some states don't have a sales tax...

zydron
15-10-2010, 11:25
Quote Originally Posted by layman
US customers do not pay VAT, that's a European term/definition.
US customers will pay tax.
whatever you call it, its the same imho!

Only thing is, will it be possible in the future, that OVH create datacentre in lets say UK and NL (and other countries), that we can colocate?

I would love that idea!
My own servers, with my own configuration, but the world wide (literarry now :P) network of OVH

layman
15-10-2010, 11:20
US customers do not pay VAT, that's a European term/definition.
US customers will pay tax.

zydron
15-10-2010, 08:17
I think this will continue with an american subsidiaire

gha, then the american customers need to pay VAT as well xD
Just like we do now



And with the CDN coming into place, I think OVH will also put a router in tokyo or in an another japanese city

Thelen
14-10-2010, 19:02
What this means is they can add some peers in America, IE Softlayer, FDC, collo4dallas etc, and the BGP traffic will go via their new router (which is functioning as a gateway to their network = AS). Basically, means instead of having to buy transit via Level3 or whatever, they just buy darkfiber over the Atlantic (for pennies on the dollar), and peer directly with people in USA. Initially (now) it means nothing, but later on means they can ramp up to say 200Gbit USA capacity for the same price as only 100Gbit transit from Europe.

/me not CCNA but 2 years running seedbox and dedicated server and other networking stuff >_>

PS. oh and because how BGP works, they can for example peer directly with SL or FDC, BUT have no transit going via this router (ie anything else from USA still goes over their normal links). This obviously won't improve anything for customers outside SL or FDC, but it means extremely cheap traffic from them. OR, assuming they have a smart enough router, they can actually still have their american routes (read: level 3 transit etc) directed through this new router even though it doesn't announce the BGP routes (i forget how this is done or what its called, but its like called proxy BGP or something. its extremely tricky to get right).

zydron
14-10-2010, 14:51
Quote Originally Posted by layman
When you say CAN, it does not mean it already does, right?

So what, it has a 10Gbps link across the atlantic? Isn't that NOT enough? Doesn't only 1 HG server has the potential to max out this link?


How do you think their future/current peering in America will affect the internal bandwidth vs transit counter?

You also mentioned the American users will access OVH via their router, from what I understand OVH has to broadcast a BGP route in order for the US side ISPs to direct the traffic via their router, otherwise the traffic will flow only from OVH to US. I don't remember/don't really know how it works in the real world, but BGP routes are broadcast by autherised parties which tells the routers around the world where to send packets, is that still the case, or does OVH need to sign agreements with peers so that they would adjust their routers for the new routes to OVH?
They are both true

1: you must announce your existence around the world. (where the hell can you find your ip's else?)
2: you must sign transit (for networks not directly connected to you network) agreemends, which will cost you money for every traffic YOU UPLOAD (traffic is free for the receiver)
Or peering (network directly connected with you) agreemend, which is mostly free of charge.

You only need to pay for the line and port by internet exchanges, or directly with the 2nd party

Now OVH has placed a router in new york, that means that OVH has created a PoP (point of precense) where they can use (I think) an internet exchange, to exchange traffic with other parties.


/me = Cisco CCNA certified

RapidSpeeds
14-10-2010, 12:03
Is that 1Gbit/s or 10Gbit/s?

layman
14-10-2010, 10:42
When you say CAN, it does not mean it already does, right?

So what, it has a 10Gbps link across the atlantic? Isn't that NOT enough? Doesn't only 1 HG server has the potential to max out this link?


How do you think their future/current peering in America will affect the internal bandwidth vs transit counter?

You also mentioned the American users will access OVH via their router, from what I understand OVH has to broadcast a BGP route in order for the US side ISPs to direct the traffic via their router, otherwise the traffic will flow only from OVH to US. I don't remember/don't really know how it works in the real world, but BGP routes are broadcast by autherised parties which tells the routers around the world where to send packets, is that still the case, or does OVH need to sign agreements with peers so that they would adjust their routers for the new routes to OVH?

zydron
14-10-2010, 07:54
What it means is that they now have a router in New York, so that american users are now accessing the OVH network via that router

edit: which is some nano seconds faster (positive for user)
and cheaper for OVH (no transit needed, now OVH can peer in america)

so win-win

layman
14-10-2010, 07:45
bump, changed title

layman
13-10-2010, 22:56
Quote Originally Posted by oles@ovh.net
Good morning,

there we go, our 1st router in the US is up. 75ms from Roubaix
Valley ... we gain 5ms compared to the current configuration.

We're going to migrate PAIX NY to our router today ...

Kind regards,

Octave


# ping 213.251.130.23
PING 213.251.130.23 (213.251.130.23) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 213.251.130.23: icmp_seq=1 ttl=251 time=75.5 ms
64 bytes from 213.251.130.23: icmp_seq=2 ttl=251 time=75.3 ms
64 bytes from 213.251.130.23: icmp_seq=3 ttl=251 time=75.4 ms
64 bytes from 213.251.130.23: icmp_seq=4 ttl=251 time=75.6 ms
64 bytes from 213.251.130.23: icmp_seq=5 ttl=251 time=75.4 ms

--- 213.251.130.23 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 75.346/75.486/75.653/0.322 ms
Can someone explain what does this mean to us, the customers, and how could we utilize it?

From my vague but general understanding of the networking, I believe it's under OVH's control to route traffic to USA via that router, the next question is, are they doing it, when will it be done, have the customers noticed an increase in performance and quality?

Any other info you could add to the subject, thanks!