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raidensnake
07-09-2008, 12:51
yeah... i don't see why they can't let 2003 standard 32-bit be £15 maybe £20 at max. to me £30 is kinda expensive. and that's not counting the server costs alone.

hyster
07-09-2008, 12:49
Quote Originally Posted by raidensnake
that depends on what you are running. game servers use a lot of memory espacially stuff like Team fortress 2 and similar as it needs to render the maps.
I was onlt suggesting an option to reduce costs for some. I understand fully some users eat lots of RAM with their setups.

Hopefully a sollution for all can be found.

raidensnake
07-09-2008, 12:45
Quote Originally Posted by hyster
Not all of us require or use huge amounts of RAM.
that depends on what you are running. game servers use a lot of memory espacially stuff like Team fortress 2 and similar as it needs to render the maps.

hyster
07-09-2008, 12:40
Quote Originally Posted by rickyday
£30 per month seems way overpriced imo.
Im sure you can purchase Server 2003 R2 for less and its yours to keep forever.

£360 sounds way too much for a year, and I bet OVH get it at a special rate anyway.
On top of all that the X64 STD Image that OVH had/have installed doesnt work properly either, its corrupted.
Please see my thread about it.
I think the prices of windows licencing is causing some concern here. Perhaps OVH could look at this with a view to a reduction. Perhaps a server with larger drives and a better CPU but with only 2 gig of ram. This would allow us to use Win Web 2003 that has a cheaper licence, £10-15. The EG type of server with 2 gig would be good for a lot of users I am sure. Not all of us require or use huge amounts of RAM.

Thank you

raidensnake
07-09-2008, 12:05
they should make 32-bit cheaper

rickyday
05-09-2008, 19:35
£30 per month seems way overpriced imo.
Im sure you can purchase Server 2003 R2 for less and its yours to keep forever.

£360 sounds way too much for a year, and I bet OVH get it at a special rate anyway.
On top of all that the X64 STD Image that OVH had/have installed doesnt work properly either, its corrupted.
Please see my thread about it.

hyster
05-09-2008, 19:00
Quote Originally Posted by Bilge
It really is your own stupid fault for using Windows. All of you. Have you even seen Steve Ballmer.
Thank you for your constructive reply, I appreciate your input. I am affraid some of us are not specialists in other systems.

Bilge
05-09-2008, 18:51
It really is your own stupid fault for using Windows. All of you. Have you even seen Steve Ballmer.

hyster
05-09-2008, 18:40
Well i have 7 ovh servers with six using windows, I am not going to be a happy bunny if I have to start paying these prices from 1st October. I have 2 that came with win web 2003 free for the life of the server when i rented them. Not kimmi's. Also have got win web runnng on 4 kimis that after 2 months i now pay 10 a month plus vat for. Are these going up to.

Over all these boxes this is a lot of money!!!!! Is it time for me to move away. Can OVH offer some info on how these prices will kick in for your older customers please for definate.

Russarch
04-09-2008, 23:31
Quote Originally Posted by Nettus
Can you not post a sentance without swearing?
OMG! he used the 'a' word, ive never heard such filth in my life!!!

Nettus
14-08-2008, 21:54
Can you not post a sentance without swearing?

If you think that then why are you still here???

Ive never had a problem with my service what so ever.

Quote Originally Posted by RikT
doing there job Lmao half the time they dont know there arse from there elbow I also am looking for a different host as the amount of changes going on all the time is ridiculous all without notice to its customers just change it cos they feel like that is not how to run a business at all.

If they continue the way they are going they will soon lose alot of its customers and those of you who think the sun shines from OVH's arse need to wake up and stop dreaming cos they going to pot.

rickyday
14-08-2008, 21:26
Quote Originally Posted by Andy
Web Edition only supports up to 2GB of RAM, so there is little point on having it on high end servers with 2GB or more of memory. You used to be able to order it but it would seem from what you have said OVH no longer allow it. You will have to use Windows Server 2003 Standard and pay £30 a month for it.
Doh of course Andy, forgot about the 2GB limit on Web Edition, thanks for reminding me
£30 per month for Windows is just a little bit too pricey, time to brush up on my nix skills I think

Andy
14-08-2008, 20:59
Quote Originally Posted by rickyday
Is it possible to have Server 2003 Web Edition on the Reloaded range and above, when I go to add the OS I get an error, works fine with Kimusufis only windows option that WORKS when ordering on RLD servers is the STD version.....

Please can this be cleared up?
Want to order tomorrow
Web Edition only supports up to 2GB of RAM, so there is little point on having it on high end servers with 2GB or more of memory. You used to be able to order it but it would seem from what you have said OVH no longer allow it. You will have to use Windows Server 2003 Standard and pay £30 a month for it.

rickyday
14-08-2008, 20:41
Is it possible to have Server 2003 Web Edition on the Reloaded range and above, when I go to add the OS I get an error, works fine with Kimusufis only windows option that WORKS when ordering on RLD servers is the STD version.....

Please can this be cleared up?
Want to order tomorrow

Andy
09-08-2008, 21:11
Quote Originally Posted by Smokin
are OVh saying that the people who got the free kimsufi trial are going to have to pay if they want to keep using windows ?

and whats going to happen if i can't pay ? one day will get up and servs been formated ?
You would have to query that with customer support. Although not directly mentioned you may be affected.

Smokin
09-08-2008, 21:04
are OVh saying that the people who got the free kimsufi trial are going to have to pay if they want to keep using windows ?

and whats going to happen if i can't pay ? one day will get up and servs been formated ?

Andy
09-08-2008, 19:54
Quote Originally Posted by RikT
doing there job Lmao half the time they dont know there arse from there elbow I also am looking for a different host as the amount of changes going on all the time is ridiculous all without notice to its customers just change it cos they feel like that is not how to run a business at all.

If they continue the way they are going they will soon lose alot of its customers and those of you who think the sun shines from OVH's arse need to wake up and stop dreaming cos they going to pot.
Your point about not informing customers is valid but I certainly don't think things are going to pot. I personally have no problem with the 3 servers I rent and I know several other people who added me on MSN who have no issues also.

It may be a matter of opinion, but if you want my opinion I think OVH's changes are for the better. Disallowing illegal p2p, stopping hackers and customers who abuse the services are all valid reasons for the changes being made. I for one am actually pleased they are making these changes because its made a huge difference to the network performance so far. I can now get double the speed to my house that I used to. Coincidence or not I am unsure but something has made a difference.

I won't be moving any time soon.

RikT
09-08-2008, 19:25
doing there job Lmao half the time they dont know there arse from there elbow I also am looking for a different host as the amount of changes going on all the time is ridiculous all without notice to its customers just change it cos they feel like that is not how to run a business at all.

If they continue the way they are going they will soon lose alot of its customers and those of you who think the sun shines from OVH's arse need to wake up and stop dreaming cos they going to pot.

Nettus
08-08-2008, 22:02
Good to see ovh are still doing thier job

Andy
08-08-2008, 21:52
Quote Originally Posted by kingofsplooge
I'm sorry, but i have to add this....



ROFL!!! Good bye to bad rubbish. You were probably one of the freeloadering scumbags anyway!
Even though he had good arguments I have to agree. The language was uncalled for.

kingofsplooge
08-08-2008, 21:50
I'm sorry, but i have to add this....

jester
Banned
ROFL!!! Good bye to bad rubbish. You were probably one of the freeloadering scumbags anyway!

Mr-E-Mann
06-08-2008, 23:23
liamg - let us know who when you find a suitable alternative

liamg1285
06-08-2008, 16:15
think we seeing the fall of everything that attracted us to ovh in the first place
thinks it time to start lookin for another host

jester
06-08-2008, 16:01
i also have my own true license so can this be applied or more bull**** making us pay more when we dont need to i also own 03 and 08 licenses

jester
06-08-2008, 16:00
more bull**** from ovh this is bollox ovh sux real bad lately and more proof it will keep sucking and going the way of dediboxinternational and giginternational

frech server suck eggs and will keep getting worst in time and i dont reckon its that long away

iand
06-08-2008, 14:39
will uk customers be able to buy windows in a uk currency as i get charged for purchases made in any other currency also how much would this be

Nettus
06-08-2008, 01:34
Since this morning, when ordering, Windows is billed directly.
Also, we no longer offer Windows for free Kimsufi.

By cons, customers who have signed the contract with Microsoft SPLA
(we) can use their own licence SPLA with our servers
Dedicated. This feature will be offered in 2 weeks. They should
No enter the license when installing the server and then pay
Microsoft directly.
"we no longer offer Windows for free Kimsufi." What about the users that have used the free trials right and not done nothing wrong, Thats like punishing the good from the bad,

You mention when ordering a license for windows u select it and then go direct to microsoft to pay, What if you already have a license? Will there be an option to select "already got a license" you know any other companys where you can buy the license code and not just the iso?

helpseeker
05-08-2008, 17:47
Yeah... better get ppl to pay for what they use (windows) instead of asking others to pay setupfees or increase the price if ordering for short periods....

IainK
05-08-2008, 16:07
I for one can't wait to start using my own Windows license!
Oles, will it be possible to install Windows Server 08 via the reinstall system and enter my own license? I don't own 03

Andy
05-08-2008, 15:56
Good morning,
We are now tackling the problems of illegal activities, "without
risk-taking "that generate a significant turn-over of dedicated servers.
Each month, customers we call 5000 servers, while dropping
2000 servers. It is used to manage such a tourover especially when
change of tenders, but this "windmill" continue already 4th month.
It is therefore not a tourover due to changes in the tender but
of the activity or illegal "border-on-line" alias "use of small
qu'Ovh give trade advantages. "The first in the series: the Windows.

Currently, we offer first 2 months free with every Windows
new server. There is a possibility that Microsoft allows us to
do with the contract SPLA. We noticed that many customers
using 2 months free and then change the server to enjoy again
2 months free.

Since this morning, when ordering, Windows is billed directly.
Also, we no longer offer Windows for free Kimsufi.

By cons, customers who have signed the contract with Microsoft SPLA
(we) can use their own licence SPLA with our servers
Dedicated. This feature will be offered in 2 weeks. They should
No enter the license when installing the server and then pay
Microsoft directly.

The Web Edition version will be proposed within a few days for RPS
iSCSI in (only).

Here is a small summarizes:
-- Web Edition 32bits: free 15Euro HT / CPU
-- Standard / Enterprise 32/64bits: 20Euro HT / CPU 30Euro HT / CPU
-- Web Edition / Standard / Enterprise 32/64bits: SPLA your dependents

Customers who currently use Windows will receive an email
with the price change of licensing Windows. They will have 30 days
to accept or refuse. In all cases, everything goes
when renewing server (only). The new rates
will enter into force on October 1 for all former clients.

In 2 weeks, we will propose new version 1
Windows:
-- 2008 Web Edition 64bits (English): 15Euro HT / CPU
-- 2008 Web Edition 64bits (English): SPLA your dependents

Other versions of Windows are too expensive and management
licensing is too complex. You have to look directly with Microsoft.

Yours
Octave

oles@ovh.net
05-08-2008, 15:36
Bonjour,
Nous nous attaquons maintenant aux problèmes des activités illégales, "sans
prise de risques" qui génèrent un tour-over important de serveurs dédiés.
Chaque mois, les clients nous commandent 5000 serveurs, tout en lâchant
2000 serveurs. On est habitué à gérer un tel tourover surtout lors de
changement des offres, mais ce "moulin à vent" continuent déjà 4ème mois.
Il ne s'agit donc pas d'un tourover dû aux changements des offres mais
de l'activité illégales ou "border-on-line" alias "utilisation des petites
avantages commerciaux qu'Ovh donne". Le premier dans la série: le Windows.

Actuellement, nous offrons 2 premiers mois gratuit sous Windows avec chaque
nouveau serveur. Il s'agit d'une possibilité que Microsoft nous autorise de
faire avec le contrat SPLA. Nous avons remarqué que beaucoup des clients
utilisent les 2 mois gratuit puis changent le serveur pour profiter à nouveau
de 2 mois gratuit.

Depuis ce matin, lors de la commande, le Windows est directement facturé.
Aussi, nous ne proposons plus de Windows gratuit pour les Kimsufi.

Par contre, les clients qui ont signé avec Microsoft le contrat SPLA
(comme nous) pourront utiliser leur propre licence SPLA avec nos serveurs
dédiés. Cette fonctionnalité sera proposée sous 2 semaines. Ils devront
entrer le n° de licence lors de l'installation du serveur puis payer à
Microsoft directement.

La version Web Edition sera proposée sous quelques jours pour les RPS
en iSCSI (uniquement).

Voici donc un petit résume:
- Web Edition 32bits: de gratuit à 15Euro HT/CPU
- Standard/Entreprise 32/64bits: de 20Euro HT/CPU à 30Euro HT/CPU
- Web Edition/Standard/Entreprise 32/64bits: en SPLA à votre charge

Les clients qui utilisent actuellement Windows vont recevoir un email
avec le changement de prix de licences Windows. Ils auront 30 jours
pour l'accepter ou pour refuser. Dans tous les cas, tout se passe
lors du renouvellement du serveur (uniquement). Le nouveau tarifs
va entrer en vigueur 1 octobre pour tous les anciens clients.

Dans 2 semaines aussi, nous allons proposer 1 nouvelle version de
Windows:
- 2008 Web Edition 64bits(anglais) : à 15Euro HT/CPU
- 2008 Web Edition 64bits(anglais) : en SPLA à votre charge

Les autres versions de Windows sont trop chères et la gestion de
licences est trop complexe. Il faut voir directement avec Microsoft.

Amicalement
Octave