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OVH USA vs OVH UK


cartwright118
15-05-2013, 20:59
Quote Originally Posted by alex
I don't mind to order from OVH USA using USA prices and pay VAT on top, as still cheaper than ovh.co.uk
You can't, unless you live in the USA. As soon as you enter a UK address it redirects you to OVH UK. Unless you have a US address of course...

alex
15-05-2013, 20:56
I don't mind to order from OVH USA using USA prices and pay VAT on top, as still cheaper than ovh.co.uk

cartwright118
15-05-2013, 16:28
If you live in the UK and have a UK address then you can only order products off the UK website.

Ashley
15-05-2013, 13:48
Wow, $256 for 256 IPs?

Do they require justification like RIPE do? Would love to get a small box set up and just use it as a proxy for my web app.

DigitalDaz
14-05-2013, 15:17
Quote Originally Posted by elcct
Are you a mafia guy?
No but the government is

I would have rather been robbed by **** Turpin, at least he wore a mask and you knew what he was about

elcct
14-05-2013, 11:22
Quote Originally Posted by DigitalDaz
Funny, the way we look at thing differently.

I've always considered VAT as more of a "hmm.., you're doing alright, I think we should be having some of that!"
Are you a mafia guy?

DigitalDaz
13-05-2013, 20:12
Quote Originally Posted by elcct
Most of countries in Europe are socialist and governments tend to oppress any kind of entrepreneurship by heavy taxation, like in this instance by V.A.T.
Funny, the way we look at thing differently.

I've always considered VAT as more of a "hmm.., you're doing alright, I think we should be having some of that!"

marks
13-05-2013, 10:50
Yes, Myatu is right (as usual) , OVH UK and US are different companies, and the datacentres, even though built with the same know-how, but work slightly different.

Tax issues apart, which Myatu has explain most of it, yes, I can confirm that the prices for European IPs is monthly opposed to the setup fee for North American servers.

Also, you can order North American servers if you're a European customers, and use ARIN IPs. What defines the country you're a customer for is the address details you provide us with.

alex
12-05-2013, 22:27
$4 is not equal to 3.60 + 20% VAT, as current exchange rate is 1.54 it should be equal prices. $4 = 2.67

I want to order the same servers from USA side not UK, even I based in UK! prices are cheaper even with 20% VAT.

elcct
12-05-2013, 15:47
Most of countries in Europe are socialist and governments tend to oppress any kind of entrepreneurship by heavy taxation, like in this instance by V.A.T.

Myatu
12-05-2013, 15:12
Quote Originally Posted by alex
Does anyone know why EU customers are being charged for IP addresses charges per month that the same company charge for setup only in USA?
OVH Inc is a separate entity to its European counterpart. Think of it as Ford USA and Ford Europe - you don't get to buy Ford Crown Vic's or F150's in Europe (except importing yourself, of course), and you don't get a Fiesta in the USA. Different companies, different markets, different products.

As for the IPs, RIPE (Europe) IPv4 pool has been exhausted last year, so what ISPs and hosting providers do have will increasingly become a premium product. ARIN is due to run out in April next year, based on current projections, so you'll likely see a change then too. Think about utilizing IPv6 more.

Quote Originally Posted by alex
Why the rules are different for USA? Why the USA clients don't pay any tax and EU do?
It's a Canadian company. But even in the USA, you do not pay state tax if the company is not corporated or otherwse established there.

For example, if the company was incorporated in New York state, then NY state citizens would have to pay sales tax, but those in Pennsylvania or elsewhere do not.

However, if they were to open a store or some other establishment in Pennsylvania, then both NY and PA citizens would pay have to pay state sales taxes (according to the local state's tax rate, not NY's). This is why a lot of companies incorporate in Delaware - it has a separate business court, low corporate taxes and no state sales tax.

alex
12-05-2013, 01:21
Hi all,

Does anyone know why EU customers are being charged for IP addresses charges per month that the same company charge for setup only in USA?

Why the rules are different for USA? Why the USA clients don't pay any tax and EU do?

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