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Loyalty and IPv4 FO


LawsHosting
22-09-2013, 09:54
Quote Originally Posted by crowarth
where has this been published? that we'll need PRO to even use / get fail over IPs? what if you already have them?
From the Anti-DDOS mailing list, which 80% don't eking use.

Octave is in his own little bubble lately, "I'm boss, I do things my way, customers can suffer".

crowarth
22-09-2013, 00:12
Quote Originally Posted by LawsHosting
Will this be obsolete now Octave has change the rules? In that we need Pro usage by default for FO, or has he changed his mind again?
where has this been published? that we'll need PRO to even use / get fail over IPs? what if you already have them?

DaveP
20-09-2013, 16:05
Yep, Makes ya sick how loyal customers have been treated.

I always thought with my older server that I had a 1Gbit connection going out but low and behold OVH are changing contract details whenever they see fit.........of course it's always with our best interests in mind......sod contractual agreements as long as they have our best interests at heart right....yeh right.

I find it almost funny that the staff are probably aware that this plan isn't gonna come to fruition and yet they are happy to see post after post from customers asking for their help by providing us with some information.

##Completely un-related but the only nice thing that OVH seem to have done......get rid of MrNylon, thank-you.

alex
20-09-2013, 15:52
I think the first post is out of date as manager director did the U turn on the loyal customer benefits. The customers with old stock ripped off for being with OVH as they can get better off with new servers as they more powerful and cost almost exactly the same.

DaveP
20-09-2013, 15:48
I don't know why I come back to these forums each week looking for updates, might as well not bother.

Hello OVH? Anyone there?

TheBritoid
11-09-2013, 15:02
Quote Originally Posted by LawsHosting
Will this be obsolete now Octave has change the rules? In that we need Pro usage by default for FO, or has he changed his mind again?
I don't think anyone except Octave knows the answer to that question.

LawsHosting
11-09-2013, 13:12
Will this be obsolete now Octave has change the rules? In that we need Pro usage by default for FO, or has he changed his mind again?

DaveP
09-09-2013, 18:08
Even a "no update" message would be better than silence.

raxxeh
04-09-2013, 10:04
Update Please.

DaveP
25-08-2013, 00:24
Any news yet OVH?

Thelen
21-08-2013, 10:22
>>>

raxxeh
20-08-2013, 18:17
Quote Originally Posted by raxxeh
Would also like an update, this is no longer "early august".
^^^

raxxeh
20-08-2013, 00:50
Would also like an update, this is no longer "early august".

LawsHosting
19-08-2013, 14:25
Quote Originally Posted by Trapper
I do not think this is right. I have changed the rDNS on IP Fail over IP's...
Think he means the details in the Ripe database, not the rDNS, which is only allowed for IP blocks.

ferryboi91
19-08-2013, 14:24
I think he means the name on the whois details for the IP Address, as far as I know you can only do it with RIPE Blocks and along with that you need the PRO option

Trapper
19-08-2013, 13:04
Quote Originally Posted by avizeke
on IP fail overs you cant change net name, as its assigned to OVH i think, otherwise this would be a awesome addition.

having to pay for pro option and go ripe block 4 only when you need one IP address to change the netname is a joke. means you have to pay around £17 per month extra just to change net name. thats an extra £204 a year. sometimes i just thing ovh is being lazy
I do not think this is right. I have changed the rDNS on IP Fail over IP's...

You do need to ensure that the A Record has been setup, and is resolvable by OVH...

~Trap

Thelen
19-08-2013, 12:59
Any news on this yet?

avizeke
06-08-2013, 01:31
on IP fail overs you cant change net name, as its assigned to OVH i think, otherwise this would be a awesome addition.

having to pay for pro option and go ripe block 4 only when you need one IP address to change the netname is a joke. means you have to pay around £17 per month extra just to change net name. thats an extra £204 a year. sometimes i just thing ovh is being lazy

raxxeh
06-08-2013, 00:28
Quote Originally Posted by HostRange
Instead of doing this I think OVH should have added this only to the MG/HG range or increased the first month limit from 3.

Not really fair that the expensive servers have the same limit.
Expensive servers (mg/hg, or maybe HG only) should get 2 per month.

HostRange
06-08-2013, 00:20
Instead of doing this I think OVH should have added this only to the MG/HG range or increased the first month limit from 3.

Not really fair that the expensive servers have the same limit.

Thelen
29-07-2013, 22:41
does not...

gregoryfenton
29-07-2013, 14:13
You make no mention that this does not apply to Kimsufi, does it apply to them or not?

macole111
27-07-2013, 22:11
Quote Originally Posted by cartwright118
Haha I thought the same...we get told to add the mailing lists for certain things, such as mitigation, or firewall. 90% of emails are French! it's like I need google translate on tab! I need to take up French, I think.
I wonder how many learn French cds or phrasebooks have datacentre or load balancer :P

-macole111

cartwright118
27-07-2013, 21:39
Quote Originally Posted by LawsHosting
So Octave can speak English then! A few cats lived today!!
Haha I thought the same...we get told to add the mailing lists for certain things, such as mitigation, or firewall. 90% of emails are French! it's like I need google translate on tab! I need to take up French, I think.

Thelen
27-07-2013, 14:23
Heh, figured as much, but good to confirm!

LawsHosting
27-07-2013, 13:20
Quote Originally Posted by Vmlweb
Oles just confirmed this does apply for existing months you've already had the server for.
So Octave can speak English then! A few cats lived today!!

Vmlweb
27-07-2013, 10:07
Quote Originally Posted by Thelen
Reads to me to be for current servers as well, but could also mean based on how long you renew/purchase a server for, we'll just have to see I Guess.
Oles just confirmed this does apply for existing months you've already had the server for.

https://twitter.com/TheBritoid/statu...44802214694912

Thelen
27-07-2013, 08:03
Quote Originally Posted by LawsHosting
It's not August yet, besides it might be for new contracts only (won't surprise me)
Reads to me to be for current servers as well, but could also mean based on how long you renew/purchase a server for, we'll just have to see I Guess.

LawsHosting
27-07-2013, 01:45
Quote Originally Posted by alex
I don't think the OP is true, as I got on server since 2012-01-08 - it's 20 months and I can't get 20 IPs.
It's not August yet, besides it might be for new contracts only (won't surprise me)

rickyday
26-07-2013, 21:54
I think this is a great solution to solving the dwindling supply of ipv4 addresses and at the same time encouraging customers to keep the same servers and not constantly cancelling and reordering.

The part about what was the maximum amount of addresses we could obtain did make me chuckle though

Liking these changes from OVH so far!

They are a real breath of fresh air

Myatu
26-07-2013, 21:43
Quote Originally Posted by oles@ovh.net
... in early August ...
Quote Originally Posted by alex
I don't think the OP is true, as I got on server since 2012-01-08 - it's 20 months and I can't get 20 IPs.
It's still July in this part of the world.

Mark1978
26-07-2013, 20:58
What if it's one of the new kimsufi which doesn't allow IP failover?

alex
26-07-2013, 20:40
I don't think the OP is true, as I got on server since 2012-01-08 - it's 20 months and I can't get 20 IPs.

Vmlweb
25-07-2013, 23:23
To be honest if you've had the same hardware for 10 years or so it's probably time to look at upgrading.

JakeMS
25-07-2013, 23:21
Perhaps that is the limit, however no limits are specified in the first post.

For example the last paragraph says:
If you pay for 6 months in the order you
have now the possibility to rent 6 IPv4.
And as for 12 months with 12 IPv4, etc..
Which would lead me to believe it may be the limit of which your server can handle that is used.

Vmlweb
25-07-2013, 23:18
Hmm so what happens when you've had a server for 128 months (10.6 years) and get 128 IPs which is the max the dedicated server supports.
Does OVH implode?

JakeMS
25-07-2013, 23:10
Quote Originally Posted by Vmlweb
Cmon I've had enough google translate in the last couple of days, was that really necessary?
Oui, c'est:-P.

OVH est géré par français, après tout.

Je ne pense pas qu'il y ait une limite, cependant, si vous commandez 6 mois en avance, vous pouvez obtenir 6 IP, et ainsi de suite, je pense que plus vous êtes avec eux, plus vous obtenez, il ne semble pas y avoir une limite cependant.

Passez une bonne soirée :-)

Vmlweb
25-07-2013, 22:47
Quote Originally Posted by Myatu
Je ne sais pas...
Cmon I've had enough google translate in the last couple of days, was that really necessary?

Myatu
25-07-2013, 22:42
Je ne sais pas...

Vmlweb
25-07-2013, 20:25
The question is... what is the limit?

Myatu
25-07-2013, 20:11
From what I can understand: You are normally limited to 3 failover IP's per server - if you want more, you need to use the Pro option. Come August, the longer you have the server with OVH, the more failover IPs you can order without needing the Pro option. So after 4 months = 4 Failover IPs per server without the Pro option, 5 months = 5 Failover IPs, and so forth.

oles@ovh.net
25-07-2013, 19:34
Hello,

You are entitled to three IP FO without professional use with each server. If you need more than 3 IP FO, you must sign up for professional use and then rent RIPE IP for £0.50/month. At that time, RIPE registration is updated and your name is shown as the owner of the IP block with the country, address etc.. IP FO are assigned to OVH and offered in each country where we have a subsidiary.

OVH will launch a loyalty program in early August for customers who have been renting the server for several months. From the 4th month you will be able to rent one additional IPv4 per month of service, without the PRO option.

So basically you get the same number of IP FO without the PRO option as the number of months you have already rented the server (except for the first three months when you had 3 IP included).

In short
------------

Length of contract => Number of IPv4 FO without PRO
0 months => 3
1 month => 3
2 months => 3
3 months => 3
4 months => 4
5 months => 5
6 months => 6
[...] [...]

If you sign up for 6 months you have automatically the possibility to rent 6 IPv4. The same for 12 months with 12 IPv4, etc..

Best wishes,

Octave